We will use small words this time. .223 goes through 16 sheets of drywall.
Frangible ammo goes through one.
Keyboard warrior, dream up all the scenarios you want. Super ninja clans have no interest in my home except in your mind, which they couldn’t possibly get lost in,one room, 25 watt bulb, really dull place.
Hey, maybe you could use Ma Deuce in your residential neighborhood for home defense? HEX rounds no less.
I have to believe that ‘Mr. Bad Guy’ would be a hurten turkey if I had to reach for my 1974 Marlin 30-30 while trespassing my property. It’s never failed me once over the 40+ years since I’ve owned it. It may not always be my first choice of all my guns, but it’s definitely one of my most reliable. Whether I’m targeting something at 10 yards or 200, I know I’ll hit my mark 99.9% of the time. My wife and I live in a remote rural area, far back off the road and it has always been within reach.
Ok, i didn’t go through all those posts but here’s my .02 cents worth…
I own both and have reloaded for both. The 30-30 will handle heavier bullets and have better bullet selection. If you need it to die where you shoot it, the 30-30 does a pretty good job. Got someone kicking in your front door… I think I would want the high-cap AK.
I own both and the ballistics are near the same. I would rather have a AK with rather than my model 94 due in part of the lying prone, a lever action is interesting to use in this position. The AK holds more ammo and loads after a shot. I really think that it boils down to price and the end users trigger time behind a certain firearm. At least I’m glad we all agree that we would defend ourselves in a critical incident
P.S. leverevolution is a little hard on my Remington model 8. If you use it I recommend it in a newer firearm.
Squid,the only practical reason to have handgun, to allow time to get to rifle!when zobies are comming down on your ass !will you be thinking Oh I dont want to over penetrate?
Any post with this many penetrations is awsome!oh and just gotta point out deep penetration is nice sometimes!
My guess is he’s probably akin to a hippo, poor social skills, stinky breath, bloated, fat, disgusting, unhappy creature, swimming in pools of his own excrement, that doubles as his refrigerator and soup kitchen.
But yeah, he could be a super cool really tough center mass target tearing up rambo eating sumbitch…yeah, not.
funny part about this whole wall thing - DRT caution that the rounds will penetrate dry wall
so Squid unless you do the test and present it (same as the one you posted only using your magic bullet) your argument holds zero validity.
The problem about being shot - most people do not even know or realise until they see the blood (body mass impact) or the arm/legs no longer function.
I know that when the army car I was in got hit by a rpg, I did not know that I had been struck by something that went through my body armour. The ones that could dismounted, and including me laid down a wall of hate in the general direction that the smoke trail came from (everything outgoing was 7.62 NATO or ,50). It wan’t until the second mag that someone pointed out that my ass was bloody and when I felt my back where it suddenly started to burn came back wet and red my first thought F**K kidney, well if this is where it is going to end I will take a few more with me and make sure my brothers go home.
So in terms of putting a person down and assuming shot placement is the same, does say 2 or 3 rounds from A 5.56 or 7.62x39mm round offer a better chance of putting a person down than a single bigger round such as .308?