American Marxist Magazine

This is from 2017

" We present here the editorial for the first issue of Socialist Revolution: the brand new publication and website from the American section of the IMT. The task before us is nothing less than the struggle for worldwide socialist revolution in our lifetimes! "

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What the hell is this?
A Joke or what?

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Its real, very real.

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Are you posting it as a warning this crap is out there or are you in support of it?
You sort of left it open ended.

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Giving a heads up, Most socialists are intolerable pieces of shit, imo.

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That’s good.
Better watch the NSM crowd too.
There is a pile on a pile and steaming.

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His training is almost complete

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I actually just subscribed to the magazine , wanted to order some anti-fascist maga killing dildo nunchucks.

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So you are one of them! :rofl:

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Well , now I know how you feel about me…

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I need my safe space now, thanks alot.

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I thought I knew the difference between socialism and communist/Marxism with the former being more like light communism allowing for private enterprise and property rights but with high taxation to fund big government entitlement/safety net programs. Seems like now they’re used interchangeably?

Anyway, I don’t understand two things. Firstly, I thought recent history taught us communism doesn’t work with the fall of the Soviet Union and its economy, the failures of Cuba and Venezuela, and the move to private enterprise and capitalism in countries like China and Vietnam. Have these Marxists so quickly forgotten this?

Secondly, I know much, if not all, of Western Europe is socialist to some extent, with high taxation, free health care and big safety net programs. But how does it continue to be sustainable?

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I think the reason for the apparent confusion comes from a few factors. Socialism pre-dated Karl Marx, but his work infused most strands of socialism going forward.

Communists still regarded themselves as socialist, and they pretty much share the same objectives; but communists would (mostly) regard revolution as the means to achieve them, whereas socialists (tend to) believe that they can do so within the democratic system.

The younger generation (those under 40) in North America, Europe (at least the western portion) etc., have mostly had no direct experience of the failures of left-wing economics; yet many of them have experienced issues arising from the failures of post-Cold War politics (student debt, housing crises etc.), and are susceptible to simplistic left-wing appeals (especially given that they are bombarded with throughout their education, by the media and through social media).

It is around thirty years since the end of the Cold War, and most of the left-wing parties had become less antagonistic towards capitalism; but the modernisers (such as Blair) failed and have been supplanted by the likes of Corbyn with the message that the failure was due to their abandonment of their traditional beliefs (think of it like religious revivalism). The difference, at least outside of the US, between today’s left and that of the '70s or earlier, is not that great economically; the difference, I would suggest, is that today’s left takes a much more radical view on societal issues - although, arguably, many nominally conservative parties are just as radical.

There is also the pragmatic situation post-1945, where the Soviet Union became (again) the main enemy of the western world. In that circumstance, emphasising the differences between socialists (most of whose voters were against the totalitarianism of the Soviets) and communists made sense.

The failure of any left-wing economy is always explained away using the “not true socialism/communism” argument, usually alongside an explanation that it is due to western sanctions.

It is not sustainable. National debts are sky high and growing across the west. The US or UK can kick the can down the road, at least for a time, with a degree of ease - provided they don’t do anything stupid. The Euro Zone has already witnessed the Greek crisis, but similar issues are likely to manifest themselves in larger economies such as Spain, Italy or even France at some point in the not too distant future.

I know that’s been a rather simplistic analysis, but you could write a book and not do the subject justice.

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Excellent explanation, Wayland. That makes sense.

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Most, if not all, forms of government are designed to enrich those in power and keep them in power. This is done at the expense of the masses. To gain power, the early leaders (usually before gaining power) promise to raise the “less fortunate” by giving them things from the government. The end result is usually most of the population in misery and a few at the top saying it is someone else’s fault.

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Agree a very well thought out explanation by Wayland.

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