Best handgun for deep concealment?


So what is .380 +P? Is that for particular guns or can you use it in any .380.

Sorry if this is a stupid question.


+P is a higher pressure round, aka more energy.

You need to check which pistol is rated for +P before using those rounds. And it isn’t a dumb question!



As Mister_Torgue stated make sure the firearm is rated for + P ammunition.



I have never had a jam on my LCP. So, yeah, it is pretty ammo friendly.


@JohnB, What do you use?



What ammo? I use only factory ammo, no reloads. Regarding the kinds:

For range ammo, I select from the following and probably have shot some of each:
Winchester white box
Remington green and white box
Sellier & Bellot
American Eagle

I don’t recall which defense ammo I have shot thru it (has been only a few rounds - probably Hornady).


My wife only shoots +P in her LCR and she’s crazy accurate, but not with .38 SPL. Darndest thing. It’s not unpleasant to fire at all. She’s still relatively new to shooting and the LCR just fits like a glove and runs, and runs, and runs. Just my two cents.

Edit: I carry a Shield in .40 and I’m thinking of swapping to an LCR if that tells you anything about how impressed I am with it.


A Shield is about as small as I can go. Anything smaller gets lost in my mitts.
My daughter loves her LCP and she’s a tiny thing.
It’s all relative to the size of the carrier


I have the LCR (.357 mag) and like it a lot. I have tried shooting magnums out of it - no thanks! I have tried shooting .38 +P’s out of it - ok, but as yet, I can’t shoot them accurately. So, I pretty much stick with .38 (non +P) specials.

It is a great little gun, conceals well. But, it is limited to 5 shots.

For the barrel length, it gets good ballistics.
If you are carrying 2 or more weapons, LCR could work out fine.


S&W Shield 45 Acp goodness


22 mag can have more than twice the velocity of a 380


(chart found on @M-CARBO 's site)


So you can’t so easily say .380 just because the bullet is heavier

A 10mm is preferred IMO over a 45acp, its a smaller bullet, but much more energy/faster


I assume this chart is measuring the velocity from a rifle. I’d imagine the velocity would be much less from a pistol, no?


most surprising pistol I ever bought…SCCY 9mm…regardless of ammo it fires every time…and at close distance accuracy is as good as anything else I own…


Seems to be a safe assumption, not sure of the barrel lengths on either chart, been tossing the idea of buying myself a chronograph for Christmas, not that I have any 22mags to test :expressionless:


Robert, EQuinn, et al:

The velocities listed for .22 mag are for rifle barrels, for sure.

Basically, .22 mag out of handguns generally tops out at around 1500 to 1600 fps. Whereas, .22 mag out of rifles generally is in the 1900 to 2200 fps range.

The Buffalo Bore velocities are from handguns (typically for .380 - using 3.5 to 4.0 inch barrels).


Well thank you Sir!