[quote=“Minuteman, post:32, topic:4078, full:true”] his hideous gun control and pro dope agenda
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Game over! Don’t care if he is Christ in the flesh. For me, those are non negotiable. Those two issues alone would be disastrous to our country and way of life.
Militias for in country situations makes sense borderline Switzerland. Foreign relations I can’t see an alternative to government being involved. It’s the one and only job I could see them actually being able to do… maybe. I think some of the problems we could encounter would be “ group think” issues, or a linch mob situation with certain areas of the country using militias. People would have to be strictly selected on there accountability and due diligence. There would have to be a great deal of unity to avoid two militias fighting each other.
Well, any Militia we could put together would definitely be a bunch of us old guys. There really aren’t any men these days. Just a bunch of crybaby millenials.
Seriously though… isn’t it technically unconstitutional to maintain a standing army…Article 1 Section 8 “To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years”. So, wouldn’t a militia be required to defend American soil?
I think the military is important. Having the military offer training of militia would be nice. But dis-banning military and replacing with civilian militia is a huge step backwards. I train with some guys. Its all we can do to get out a couple days a month and train. Ammo isnt cheap. Its hard to handload inbetween living and working. Forming a militia sounds good, but not practical for most. I would however train with a groups of guys and keep em on speed dial 
I do know a lot of guys who have meeting spots and bug out bags packed for if shtf. Its organizing large groups of people that is difficult. Military has that organization.
A standing army is a Constitutional requirement, “provide for the common defense”, and therefore highly unlikely to ever be removed. The usefulness and strict limitations of militias as opposed to professional armies were lessons taught to us in the Revolution and again in the Civil War. If you want to be able to deter aggression on the national level, you must be able to mount both a credible defense and offense, and part time summer militia will not project that deterrence either locally or globally. Perhaps I should ask what government relies STRICTLY on militia? Costa Rico has no army, just a militarized police force, but they have nothing worth taking.
You are entitled to your opinion on world events, political strategies, and political leaders, (Bernie Sanders is a socialist hypocritical blithering idiot), but if your idea of militia only was to be adopted, 'long about next week we’d be Balkanized and several small independent and much weaker nation states. Who’s going to stay in a Union that won’t work to protect said Union?
Again, just my opinion, shared by millions. My other opinion is that State Guard units should start popping up, local armed trained forces that do NOT answer to the feds.
Oh don’t get me wrong, I would NEVER actually vote for him for the very same reasons you highlighted. All I am saying is that he has some good points. The world isn’t all black and white, and nobody’s perfect. The Pauls come close, but they too are far from perfect. Sanders would make an excellent secretary of labor or something like that though. I do not hide that I tend to think along Democratic party lines where it comes to economic issues. I’m left of center economically and oppose our sweat shop style economy. Sure, I’m a capitalist and believe in a market economy. A well-regulated economy that is. I believe in economic fairness. I’m upper middle class white collar myself, but I’m very solidary with with blue collar working class folks. I’m in favour of better employee rights for everybody. It’s the excesses of capitalism, the extreme greed and slave holdership that I oppose. So yes, economically I am mostly Democratic although I identify as an Independent. I just look at the issues.
That’s my point. I don’t want any foreign relations or involvement (other than being on excellent terms with Russia and Israel). So hence no need for a military. Armed Forces serve only imperialist motives. Jeferson agrees.
That is definitely food for thought.
Anyone under the age of 35 has no business in any Militia (or the military for that matter). War /combat is an old man’s game.
I do. Speer LE 357 SIG GDHP and 6.8mmx43 SPC II OTM is pistol and GP rifle ammo Nirvana.
So you’re in favour of wasting many, many billions on coercion politics, big brother, subsidizing the MIC and you actually getting Jack Sh*t for your tax dollars instead of getting an actually excellent educaton + health care? (because that’s what Bernie stands for). Duly noted.
I respect your opinion and freedom of speech though, so no pun intended at all. Have a good one!
Nothing worth taking? What about their lives?..
interesting that in the USofA a militia is a rabble with guns but pretty well every where else a militia is a volunteer military group in support of their country.
No large groups for me four or five people that can work together is what I think would work.
Let’s just hope for the integrity of free citizens everywhere that when the chips are down that all true American patriots can put aside our differences to unite against a common enemy foreign or domestic. That is the true American spirit weather people still think that way or not.
Just because we only place one response doesn’t mean we’re not paying attention.
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don’t talk.
Keep in mind this is just a discussion. At the end of the day, our common ground is love of country. Who leads it is up to the ballot box.
Currently, we have nothing urgent pressing upon us as potential militia members.
If/when the time comes that SHTF for real, I am sure there will be a better focus amongst us all as to what to do and what direction(s) to take in saving our country(s).
From Army.mil
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).
I’m sure there are plenty of honorable service members that believe in the importance of the military. We have plenty of reasons to be fighting terrorism wherever it is. It’s not about foreign politics, or posturing. It’s about helping people, whether it be aid and support after an earth quake, or removing a country’s capacity to use chemical weapons on it’s citizens.
@Robert [quote=“Robert, post:60, topic:4078”]
So 7 people, in their own homes/comfort zones, seemingly can not work together through a thread, you think you can pull together an A Team?
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Spot on sir
@Minuteman
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he has some good points
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Really? Im pretty sure I saw many of his speeches where he stated Hilary would destroy the Country… then when he saw his political party was in trouble… he endorced her. IDK about you… but I would not believe a word out of that old Cook’s mouth. He did whatever was right for himself at the time. Its funny how lieing under oath is illegal. Lieing when you are trying for running the entire freaking country is just politics.
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