Howdy from the Hinterboonies

Hello and G’day,

I’m a Gun Jesus fan from way out yonder in the desert. I found this place thanks to Gun Jesus and MAC so blame them.

I’m currently working on becoming an engineer and I’m focusing on a few designs for new gas operating systems, with any luck I’ll have patents by the end of next year. I also have a weird thing for figuring out how oddball home brew projects work. as an example here’s today’s rabbithole:

The Vity-ain’t AK: Cliffnotes forensic rabbithole
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Pretty sure it’s a de-mill build, everything rear of the mag release looks factory and everything foreward looks like some 3rd world homebrew, you can see where it was welded (built off of a De-Mil reciever?)
If youzoom in and look at the gas port you can see a piston, so I believe that’s been custom cut and welded too. The mag looks like a Cz. 24/26 unit, so 7.62x25 chambering

That also probably means it’s got a 74 bolt head given that the .30 Tok has a 9.83mm casehead and the 5.45 has a 10mm case head as opposed to the 7.62x39mm with an 11.35mm casehead.

My running theory at the moment is that the kludger in question got his mits on a de-mil parts kit (or something a T-72 ran over) hacked the gas block section off of a 47 barrel, reamed a chamber, built his trunion section and the front half of the reciever, shortened the piston and furniture, recrowned and threaded the muzzle, cut a few inches out of the stock, (if you look closely at the stock you can see what looks like a ground weld seam just behind the hinge) and put it out on the street.

It’s a cool concept my only question would be accuracy given that the .30 Tokarev retains the Western .30 diameter from it’s Mauser ancestry of .308 where as a 7.62x39mm barrel would be cut to .314-.317 as per Warsaw standards. That being said, I would love to see a closed bolt piston gun in .30 tok or 10mm on the US market as a PCC or “Pistol”.

Any additional thoughts or ideas? I’m working off of this one random image from DuckDuckGo soany additional info or input is helpful. Cheers!

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Also, I am realy not an AK guy so I’m doing my research on the fly. Any Kalashnikovniks in the house?

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Welcome…lots of good people here with plenty of knowledge

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Hello @TrapMasterWilly

Welcome to the forum

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Thanks for the link!

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Glad I was right about the chambering. It’s a cool piece.

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Not an “AK guy” either but I do like combloc and military surplus. I just bought my first AK a few months ago and overall I like it. The good news is there are some great AK guys here!

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I’m a Czechophile when it comes to Warsaw weapons. I have an East German Vz.52 in 7.62x45 Czech that’s the gem of my milsurp collection. You know anyone with the old RCBS dies? I can get Carcano brass to neck down.

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Ever been to a Pakistani gun store?
Does look intriguing

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Make sure you post pics of those in our gun porn thread.

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@srdiver I havn’t but that sounds like an interesting experiance. Any insight?

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@Chuparosa I will as soon as I get a digital camera. I’m still a flip phone luddite from the last century.

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No worries. :cowboy_hat_face:

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Ok, I am curious about the ghetto AK patterns with the 5.56 magwell conversions. Are those Polish or homebrew?

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Welcome to Full30!

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my guess when looking at a exterior stamped interior machined - my guess home brewed.

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I’m gonna have to agree with you, the mag well profile doesn’t match anything I can find online.

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Where exactly are the “hinterboonies”?

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Edit: This is a stock image but it’s the same mountain range so you can get the idea.

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