Military M4 vs civilian AR15 (which is "better")

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Do you think most mid grade (sub $1400) AR15s are better , worse, or equal to military M4s? Think Daniel Defense, BCM, Spikes, SOLGW, S&W M&P etc, not custom Noveske, KAC, Hodge type stuff.

Which one do you think makes a better fighting rifle?

Any of you guys with time on both have an opinion?

Good video on the topic

  • Military M4
  • Civilian AR15

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M4 has a select fire position, much more heat and stress from full auto fire than semi. I’ve yet to meet a person that can pull a trigger fast enough and LONG enough to bring a semi to the point of melting parts and failure. the hand will give out before that happens. and I have seen people try. even with a full you have to run many rounds and fast mag changes. Now the devices like bump stocks and binary triggers make it possible. I don’t think the m4 is any better than a well made AR. just my opinion. and opinions are like bungholes. everybody has one.

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I havnt handled a real M4 but mil spec seems rather like a bare minimum approach. I had a 6920 which is 80% of a real m4 and it was hardy but crude. 2 moa was not impossible.

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Wherever you place LWRC , that’s my vote

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and I don’t see a high point carbine selection. :rage:

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They are up there with BCM, DD, SOLGW etc. By mid range I mean general use with quality parts. Most of the spendy spendy stuff is precision oriented or piston driven. A regular DI built for general use shouldnt cost over 2k, imo. I wouldny spend over 1.5k.

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Oh…I didnt mention them? No idea why…

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One of the comments on that video:

“The gun grabbers said my AR15 is military grade. Which made me really mad Because my rifle is a lot better than that.”

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We never used burst anyhow. My rifles now are much better, the only difference is if I break something now, it comes out of my paycheck.

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With the other one the cost cameout of your tax dollars :laughing:

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Good point

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Is the AR-15 going to be fully semi-automatic? I need to know to make an informed decision.

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Yes

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Surely you know of the idiot swamper Colonel that said it.

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we have to remember that military grades means - made by the lowest bid.

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Yes

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or largest pay off

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Cough sig cough

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