Old west Criminals or Lawmen, history is written by Hollywood

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Dont think we will disarm today

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@HighlandsPatriot

Actually, I think that was the problem the Earps had with the other guys. The Earps were the law enforcement guys, and the other guys were supposed to give up their guns while in town, but refused. In the end, the Earps “won” (though they still paid a heavy price).

Is that what you were trying to suggest? That if we don’t allow the law to disarm us, we will get shot down like the cowboys in (near) the OK corral by the law enforcement guys?

Kind of mixed signals for some of us…

Either way, I am hoping to avoid such a confrontation.

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No, in the movie after the shootout, the so-called sheriff approaches the Earps and tells them they are under arrest, to which Wyatt says I don’t think we’ll let you arrest us today. So although slightly out of context it was a statement that we {they} will not be disarmed by crooked/not lawful people with no lawful authority to do so, if that makes sense. I kind of watched that movie way to many times

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sorry, @HighlandsPatriot , but here is the correct version:

The Earps had set out to disarm the Cowboys who were carrying guns in town against local ordinance, the main cause for the confrontation (though other animosity between the groups existed). The losing side of the gunfight consisted of Ike and Billy Clanton, Frank and Tom McLaury, and Billy Claiborne.

October 26, 1881: Gunfight at The O.K. Corral, The Weapons - History and Headlines

And, the movie portrayed it this same way. (I, too, have watched the movie multiple times.)

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It was only a movie I know the real history

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I like the movie but not much of an Earp fan. He gets made to seem like some gritty badass but I dont that get vibe from the historical accounts. He seemed like a hardass but no John Wesley Hardin or Bill Hickok

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He was a badass, not really a gunfighter, like Holiday, now you want a real badass look up Bud Garrett from Carter County OK, that was a badass and nobody even heard of him

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Same with John Wesly Hardin but he was a psycho. He shot a guy on the floor above him for snoring too loud and killed his first person at age 10 (I think).

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This guy?

https://www.legendsofamerica.com/buck-garrett/

I was thinking of Pat Garret when you first said the name. Dont know much about either of them to be honest.

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yes, @HighlandsPatriot , there was a part of the movie wherein someone tried to arrest one or more of the Earps. But, for the OK corral, it was the Earps who were trying to take the cowboys’ guns away from them - both in the movie, and in real life. The picture you shared (I believe it) was from right before they went to face the cowboys to take their guns. Either way, though, the Earps had made it a practice of taking people’s guns from them whenever they arrived in town. Of course, if all went well, they would give the guns back to the visitors when they were ready to leave town.

fyi: movie name was “Tombstone”

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that’s him, he was a real badass, got shot by one of his own deputies while drunk and disorderly because he would not give up his gun. I had a book on him but sent it to a friend

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I know what you are saying, the whole thing stinks of gun control. I say it every time I watch the movie.

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Thats how most of the old gunslingers went out. Both Hardin and Hickok died from getting shot in the back, think Billy the Kid did too. Live by the sword die by the sword.

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Well seeing we are way off topic anyway, this book by Bill O’Neal has well researched facts and figures, how many gunfights, how many kills, etc from about every gunman in the gunfighter era. And the most surprising thing is how few actual fights and kills there were. Grab a copy if you get a chance.

9780806115085-us

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Its a meme thread, its supposed to be be derailed in between memes. These are essentially just threads for bullshitting.

Looks interesting, but I am curious , does he cite his sources? I have became quite a stickler for authors citing thier sources or I wont even bother reading in most cases.

If so could you show me an example of exactly how he cites them?

Not doubting the book is legitimate , I am genuinely curious about the book.

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It is the best book I have come across, have had several copies and given away as long as I have one.

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Great another trip to Amazon, Thank You looks worth having on the shelf.

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Nice, thanks. :+1:

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