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Encyclopedia of Western Gunfighters

Encyclopedia of Western Gunfighters

by O’Neal, Bill

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@JF89

Yes, a lot of them died violently. However, Wyatt Earp died peacefully in his old age. He was a mix of a gunslinger and a law enforcement officer. Of course, modern day “gunslingers” - if you leave out the criminal elements - are doing just fine. (for example - Jerry Miculek, among others, are doing fine)

One of Jerry’s achievements - emptying a five-shot revolver in 0.57 seconds in a group the size of a playing card. Wow!

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Priceless if you like arguing about these sort of things!
Seriously, I have had a copy since the 80’s or 90’s I think, it is one of those books that may set on the shelf for a while but never gets buried.

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Well guys it was part of history portrayed in a movie that we all liked,

The next part of history if we’re pushed in to it. We will never live long enough to see the movie.

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Most of them were outlaws and lawman off and on throughout thier lives. Earp seemed competent maybe but I dont think he was at the level of guys like Hardin who was by all accounts cold blooded and psychotic. Historians have pretty much confirmed Hardin killed over 20 people although he claimed his body count was closer to 40 or 50. He spent time in prison before becoming a Lawman even.

Impressive but Ed Mcgivern was to SA revolver shooting what Jerry is to modern shooting.

Gunfighters and trick shooters were two different things though, stacking bodies and shooting coins out of the air probably overlap somewhat but I can see there being a mentality difference.

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great price, think I paid over $40 a long time ago for a 1st ed, good condition excellent sleeve. Gave away as a gift. The one I have now is also a 1st, but library copy so has the library card and sleeve. was checked out exactly once. Don’t remember what I paid for this one.

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@Detonics

Let’s hope it never gets that bad. Gotta be some way to maintain 2A and not have a civil war.

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I argue, surely you jest Sir. :innocent:

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Kilmer made that movie what it is. Good actor and movie in my opinion.

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There was an autographed hard copy on for a lot more, but I have spent way to much this month, my wife will not be happy when the credit card bills come in. I figure it is the same information and will be on the shelf in my office, nobody to be impressed but me as nobody else goes in here.

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@JF89

Yeah it is too bad Ed McGivern did not live nowadays instead of back in the late 1800’s to mid 1900’s. Some (all?) of his records were imprecisely timed, so we really don’t just how fast he was. Still, he was clearly quite fast and accurate enough to be highly respected to this day.

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He became a Lawyer

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Tied for #2 0n Bill’s list

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I would say Mcgivern would outclass Jerry with a SA. Jerry’s bread and butter is DAs if I remember correctly.

Bill Jordan was also an actual gunfighter and trick shooter who served as a Marine in the Korean war then as a border patrolman when the border was really bad.

https://www.amazon.com/Second-Place-Winner-William-Jordan/dp/0936279095

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@JF89

Val Kilmer did a great job acting for sure. I liked Kurt Russell better, personally.

Of course, I liked Kurt Russell in “The Hateful Eight” too.

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Interesting , the numbers will vary. Ive seen anywhere from 15 to 30 , Hardin made alot of claims that appeared to have some truth but reeked of bullshit(such as killing 3 union soldiers).

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Kilmer is a show stealer for sure.

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@albroswift

Yeah, he kind of had his own segment of the whole story. Seemed like between his sickness and his being even faster (in the movie) than Wyatt, he was kind of a doomed hero (his sickness being his doom).

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It came out much later that Russell really directed that movie as well; Kilmer and a few others said the director credited for it was window dressing.

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and poof

it was moved

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