What optics do you prefer for a "go-to" rifle ?

[JF89 (Joseph)]

@srdiver

or your red dot to fail due to a EMP strike, you would be dead anyways due to the flash and pressure created by the event.
There is a reason the military no longer worries about EMP - because even as a small area denial weapon, the energy required is more than what man has been able to create to date.

Nice, thats something Ive wondered about actually. What do you think NK has in terms of EMP tech?

[srdiver (Tim)]

NK as in North Korea?
zero
same as any other Nuclear War head owning country.

case in point a lightning strike is a localised EMP strike.
How many modern transportation devices have survived a lightening strike?

[JF89 (Joseph)]

@srdiver

NK as in North Korea?
zero
same as any other Nuclear War head owning country.

case in point a lightning strike is a localised EMP strike.
How many modern transportation devices have survived a lightening strike?

Yea, North Korea. Little Kim seemed pretty confident he could takeout our power grids a few years back. I figured he meant EMP.

[Robert]

@Caw

What do you think NK has in terms of EMP tech

tough to imagine anything

[JF89 (Joseph)]

Any ideas? Are his only cards nukes?

[Robert]

I’d be far more concerned with Directed Energy Weapons

part of what convince me these are real is

2.4g cooking your...fish

Miele is a 120 Year old Co. and very innovative, very. [image] The Dialog uses electromagnetic waves of around 900 MHz which is the same as the mobile phone. [The Miele Dialog oven - IFA2017] [image]

https://forum.full30.com/t/the-california-wild-fires-and-agenda-21

and I doubt NK has them

[Joe]

I have the ACOG on my AR and I like it quite a bit but I’m not convinced that it’s the best bang for the buck. I do like how the drop marks work as a range finder. The average width of human shoulders is 19 inches. If the mark lines up with width of the shoulder that is the range.

[Belt-Fed (Rick)]

I don’t want any optics or anything that needs a battery on the go to gun. iron sights baby. but if I need one, I have it.

[JF89 (Joseph)]

ACOGS dont use batteries. They use fiber optics and tritium, im pretty sure they go for like 30 years while slowly phading out. Then you still have an etched reticle.

[JF89 (Joseph)]

@Joe

have the ACOG on my AR and I like it

they are super nice but too rich for my tastes. I really like the cross hair model and the ACSS. They are so expensive because they are military grade shit , my buddy claims he seen some that were in IED blasts where the gun was totaled yet they still functioned. The V-cog looks uber cool too.

[Joe]

they are super nice but too rich for my tastes

Yeah, looking back I should have bought another gun instead

[BrianK]

Really? The folks in Hawaii never even felt it. But maybe an EMP powerful enough to take out small electronics would need to be closer, IDK.

EMP strike over Hawaii in 1962

[JF89 (Joseph)]

@Joe

Yeah, looking back I should have bought another gun instead

Hey, dont have regrets. Now you have a combat proven military grade optic for shtf. Itll probably out live you

[BrianK]

10 years is the half life of tritium. At that point it needs replacing but yes it can go a bit longer if it must and if ones eyes are sensitive. Give me a lithium battery. The shelf life for them is 20 years and still be “new”.

[BrianK]

Isn’t that what I wrote?

I had an ACOG and I sold it when it needed refreshing and went to batteries instead. Under conditions I never had to use it in the tritium would have been useless IMO, at least for my eyes. There is a huge difference when testing it when it doesn’t count and having to use it when the reticle absolutely must be picked up rapidly. Lithiums have a long room temp shelf life and assuming SHTF, a freezer with alkalines in it, when the electricity stops the alkalines start to age. Until then they hibernate waiting for warmer temps. Of course with PV panels, as previously discussed, the battery in the unit lasts a VERY long time since it isn’t used when there’s ambient light.

The other thing I didn’t like about the ACOG is that it’s for young eyes only. There was no way to focus it when my Rx changed, and eyes change for lots of folks over 40. That was the 2nd reason I sold the ACOG. I could no longer have a focused reticle. But I liked it while it worked.

[JF89 (Joseph)]

@BrianK

Isn’t that what I wrote?

Yea , makes sense too.

[srdiver (Tim)]

it is funny that everyone forgets the local testing that happened in our backyards with no ill effect…emp wise.

[BrianK]

Age explains it. Just us older SOBs remember it. The young are above what we learned . I just wrote that to get their attention. It’s just not mentioned except for places like here so they can’t possibly know.

[BrianK]

I replied to srdiver, though the post doesn’t show that, I probably screwed it up. The young don’t know what they aren’t taught. In this case regarding the EMP that paralyzed Hawaii. EMP was discussed up a bit in the thread and how it would kill people, yada, yada. It can happen so high up that folks might not even know of it since sound doesn’t travel in a vacuum. They might not even see a flash. Suddenly things just stop working.

[JF89 (Joseph)]

@BrianK

I replied to srdiver, though the post doesn’t show that, I probably screwed it up. The young don’t know what they aren’t taught. In this case regarding the EMP that paralyzed Hawaii.

I figured as much. I had never heard of this incident before. Makes sense though.