I laugh because I was young and foolish then, too. Youthful bravado coupled with a false sense of invincibility led us to cross into Mexicali for cheap haircuts, pharmacy and other shopping trips. I look back now and just add it to the long list of other dumb things I did when I was younger.
And yeah, the cartels were strong then, but today it seems like it’s a whole other world of violence on steroids. The senseless attack and murder of those innocent Mormon women and children, and for no strategic purpose that I can think of, coupled with El Chapo’s son’s forces completely overwhelming and tactfully outwitting their military further underscores how their government is quickly losing that country.
I think you’re right if we build something like the fortified border along the 38th parallel between North and South Korea. But there are several differences and challenges to that:
Our border with Mexico is much longer than the border between the two Koreas. The expense to build, fortify, man and maintain such a long militarized border would be astronomical I think.
A fortified border along the surface can be easily defeated by building tunnels deep underground. Maybe there’s some kind of technology that can detect underground tunneling all along the border, though?
A fortified border can also be defeated by using ports of entry. There are numerous ports of entry all along the border to facilitate back and forth legal trade. With all the commerce and trade between Mexico, the US and Canada, how can we stop the flow of human trafficking and contraband hidden among the flow of lawful commerce?
Im kind of being humorous, but think about it…Considering people pay $$$thousands to be allowed to go hunt whitetail deer, wild hogs, elk etc., if hunters/ shooters were given free reign and some slack from our shit GOVERNMENT, people in mass would line up to protect the entire border. People on their own time, & their own dime. Hell, many would probably pay for a sector to set up on!
How many of you have thought about taking out a drug dealer to take thier cash and keep the drugs off the street . But the. Idea of jail if you got caught keeps you from it .
Living down here on the border of Mexico, I can tell you that you are 100% correct. The cartels own Mexico; the Federales, Military and local police forces, as well as the government itself is all in their control. With a few small exceptions, that war is lost, and anything you see going on down there is cartel on cartel violence with innocents getting caught in the crossfire.
If you watch any alternative news sources coming out of Mexico, it will scare the hell out of you. The violence inflicted by these Narco Terrorists make Isis look tame…and this is happening right across the border.
I have a good friend who happens to be in a position where he is intimately involved in terror threats to the US. He was informed that the biggest threat to the US is not anything coming from overseas, but the economic destabilization of Mexico, and the ensuing invasion of Narco Terrorists and Mexican citizens across our southern border should this occur. This info is kept quiet in order to keep tourism up and dollars flooding into Mexico…and if you want to know why a border wall will never be completed, you have your answer.
The border is long, but we have the capabilities to protect it. Un-maned gun towers with thermal sights can cover a lot of ground without a lot of people.
we have the tech to detect underground issues also.
ports of entry could be the hardest to protect, but could be done IF the politics allowed it…one way to help is the proper punishment when those people who are doing the drug and human trafficking…quick 5 minute trial and then a bullet to the head, employ the cartel tactics…
I’ll humbly and respectfully disagree on the 5 minute execution trials and un-manned gun turrets on due process grounds. But I understand your desire to try some kind of deterrence!
And good to know we have technology that can detect underground tunneling. Curious as to whether we use it much? Seems like tunneling has been a real successful way for cartels to cross drugs into the US.
Someone is Illegally trying to enter the U.S…there is no due process…that is a political answer…an illegal alien is caught running drugs or humans across the border, a 5 minute trial is very fair…politics does not allow full use of all Military capabilities…
I accidentally almost entered illegally. I went into Mexico to go shopping at a small town about 30 years ago. On the way back, I went a different, more rural route and got lost. I found another dirt road and took it to get back to the border. Luckily, one of the locals told me that road wouldn’t lead me back to a port of entry but instead to a gully with trails used by smugglers to cross illegally. I probably would’ve kept going and crossed without realizing I had already done so, thinking sooner or later it would lead me to a main road that would take me back to the port of entry. Had I been apprehended, I could’ve been charged for entry without inspection. That scenario is one reason why I argue due process should be provided.
But aside from that, I think it’s immoral to indiscriminately shoot unarmed people illegally crossing. We don’t shoot our own criminals when they break the law unless they committed a capital offense worthy of the death penalty. Now, I have no qualms shooting and defending ourselves from an armed invasion force. But those who enter illegally should instead be apprehended and deported, just like we’ve been trying to do with our overworked and grossly understaffed Border Patrol Agents.
I don’t think we should let the evil perpetrated by the cartels to inflame our passions and take it out by shooting and killing unarmed folks who cross illegally. Many of them are trying to escape the cartels themselves. But I do believe those folks shouldn’t cross illegally because of that. It may be easy for me to say this since I’m not in their shoes, but I think they should instead stay in their country and work to try to make it better. And if that means they should fight the cartels and rampant corruption, then they should do what it takes to accomplish that.
Anyway, that’s just my opinion. I certainly respect opposing opinions on the matter.
Actually they do and yes, based on your statement above, you are ignorant on this subject.
With the corruption of Mexican politicians and police by Cartel money along with Cartel armed forces actually defeating Mexican military and police forces on a regular basis, yes they control Mexico.
Believe as you wish but “belief” does not trump what is actually happening on our southern border.
Automated fully or remote controlled? How do you identify targets at distance and whether they are hostile or not?
We have the same tech in South Korea yet the North has many tunnel systems with only a fraction discovered.
Quick 5 minute trials with summary execution would last a nano-second before all hell broke loose politically in this country. No reasonable person would support this, even the more ardent “build the wall” Trumper would be appalled by such a suggestion.
If it’s on the Mexican side of the Border it is hostile…
And who say’s they want to detect and find all the tunnels ? Politics.
If you continue to let the enemy have there way with no repercussions then you never fix the problem. Shoot a few and then things change. They try and retaliate, shoot even more…
when the cartels get together and invade us, which will never happen…and until Mexico gets renamed to a cartel name I am not the least bit worried…even if the cartels took all the Mexican military equipment they are nothing compared to what we have at or near the border…not even in the same ballpark…
I need to create a new category for these hot threads, matinee perhaps
here’s a few other countries, Russian is not named but I read it can earn you up to two years in a prison labor camp, that’s a good deterrent I’d guess, not likely for the cartel though
I think we should let Sheriff Joe run all the detention facilities free from political BS…they won’t come back after a year of hard labor building the Wall under the watchful eye of a M240…
Hmmm, didn’t know all Mexicans are hostile. We better start zapping those damn 7 year olds now before they grow up and become a threat to our national security.
Oh wait, Russia did play by similar rules in Afghanistan and look how that turned out-LMAO.
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